Kerem Gelebek x Soa Ratsifandrihana

In 2025, Dance Reflections by Van Cleef & Arpels presents, in collaboration with the Rose Choreographic School, 4 episodes of a podcast series þ thorns þ. Those episodes are devoted to artists who performed as part of the Festival in London. This episode is a conversation between Kerem Gelebek and Soa Ratsifandrihana.
This episode is a conversation between dancers Kerem Gelebek and Soa Ratsifandrihana. Soa is a Franco-Malagasy dancer and choreographer based in Brussels, and Kerem is a dancer from Turkey based in Paris. They discussed their featured work from Dance Reflections. We'll hear them discuss how they use the term interpreter in place of choreographer or dancer, and how their work integrates personal and cultural archives. They'll also speak about the challenges of creating work, which incorporates their heritage without exoticizing it.